1 00:00:02,190 --> 00:00:29,900 [Music] 2 00:00:29,910 --> 00:00:37,069 [Applause] 3 00:00:43,510 --> 00:00:38,630 well thank you for putting the pressure 4 00:00:46,229 --> 00:00:43,520 on Gary um appreciate that um actually 5 00:00:48,750 --> 00:00:46,239 you know this is amazing how far we have 6 00:00:53,029 --> 00:00:48,760 come since 7 00:00:55,750 --> 00:00:53,039 2017 it's it's really it's just 8 00:00:58,830 --> 00:00:55,760 incredible and these talks have been 9 00:01:01,310 --> 00:00:58,840 incredible and somewhat eclips a little 10 00:01:04,590 --> 00:01:01,320 bit of what I want to say um I was 11 00:01:06,510 --> 00:01:04,600 corresponding with Peter and Gary two 12 00:01:08,990 --> 00:01:06,520 weeks ago I was giving a talk in Paris 13 00:01:11,149 --> 00:01:09,000 before a group and I had slides I don't 14 00:01:14,310 --> 00:01:11,159 have slides today I was giving a 15 00:01:17,149 --> 00:01:14,320 presentation on the Extraterrestrial 16 00:01:19,469 --> 00:01:17,159 hypothesis and then I saw well Dr L is 17 00:01:21,270 --> 00:01:19,479 going to be here and Dr kth and these 18 00:01:23,109 --> 00:01:21,280 great scientists I don't need to do that 19 00:01:25,190 --> 00:01:23,119 they're going to be they're far more 20 00:01:28,030 --> 00:01:25,200 qualified than me so let me try to offer 21 00:01:31,109 --> 00:01:28,040 something from a national security 22 00:01:33,590 --> 00:01:31,119 perspective so um uh didn't have a lot 23 00:01:35,350 --> 00:01:33,600 of time but I I spent some time putting 24 00:01:37,389 --> 00:01:35,360 together a few remarks for your 25 00:01:39,950 --> 00:01:37,399 consideration as this group is well 26 00:01:41,749 --> 00:01:39,960 aware various committees and members of 27 00:01:43,710 --> 00:01:41,759 Congress are seeking to determine 28 00:01:46,630 --> 00:01:43,720 whether the US government has proof of 29 00:01:48,789 --> 00:01:46,640 an extraterrestrial presence on Earth 30 00:01:52,389 --> 00:01:48,799 this would undoubtedly be the most 31 00:01:55,389 --> 00:01:52,399 shocking profound and transformative 32 00:01:57,469 --> 00:01:55,399 Discovery in human history yet despite 33 00:01:59,550 --> 00:01:57,479 the gravity of the issue Congress has 34 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:59,560 been proceeding without holding any 35 00:02:04,590 --> 00:02:01,200 hearing hearings or requesting any 36 00:02:06,590 --> 00:02:04,600 studies to date to assess the impact of 37 00:02:08,510 --> 00:02:06,600 this potential bombshell 38 00:02:10,109 --> 00:02:08,520 revelation it appears that our 39 00:02:12,630 --> 00:02:10,119 legislators are failing to heed the 40 00:02:15,270 --> 00:02:12,640 maximum don't ask the question if you're 41 00:02:17,309 --> 00:02:15,280 not prepared for the answer there is 42 00:02:19,710 --> 00:02:17,319 also strangely little discussion of this 43 00:02:22,830 --> 00:02:19,720 critical issue among proponents of 44 00:02:24,869 --> 00:02:22,840 disclosure in the UAP Community perhaps 45 00:02:26,790 --> 00:02:24,879 Advocates of disclosure simply assume 46 00:02:30,509 --> 00:02:26,800 that truth and transparency are always 47 00:02:32,509 --> 00:02:30,519 for the better although I applaud this 48 00:02:35,150 --> 00:02:32,519 this is not so simple for those bearing 49 00:02:36,509 --> 00:02:35,160 the weighty responsibility of governing 50 00:02:38,229 --> 00:02:36,519 I therefore thought I'd offer some 51 00:02:40,869 --> 00:02:38,239 thoughts from the standpoint of a public 52 00:02:41,949 --> 00:02:40,879 servant involved in the UAP issue of 53 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:41,959 National 54 00:02:46,630 --> 00:02:44,640 Security the first question that Aris is 55 00:02:48,470 --> 00:02:46,640 how can we make a fair determination 56 00:02:51,430 --> 00:02:48,480 about the potential risks and benefits 57 00:02:54,390 --> 00:02:51,440 of disclosure without access to all the 58 00:02:57,430 --> 00:02:54,400 facts if the US government has recovered 59 00:02:59,470 --> 00:02:57,440 extraterrestrial technology decades ago 60 00:03:01,509 --> 00:02:59,480 there has inevitably been some progress 61 00:03:03,710 --> 00:03:01,519 in assessing it and hopefully some 62 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:03,720 insights gleaned regarding the nature 63 00:03:07,710 --> 00:03:05,280 and intent of the 64 00:03:09,949 --> 00:03:07,720 designers however nobody with credible 65 00:03:13,030 --> 00:03:09,959 access to such information has provided 66 00:03:15,750 --> 00:03:13,040 any details one of the only things we 67 00:03:18,229 --> 00:03:15,760 can say with certainty at this point is 68 00:03:19,949 --> 00:03:18,239 that unless this uh intelligence proves 69 00:03:22,509 --> 00:03:19,959 to be Angelic which is not what our 70 00:03:25,550 --> 00:03:22,519 military is reporting disclosure would 71 00:03:27,429 --> 00:03:25,560 undeniably frighten if not terrify many 72 00:03:30,270 --> 00:03:27,439 segments of the world 73 00:03:32,429 --> 00:03:30,280 population moreover what if closure 74 00:03:34,429 --> 00:03:32,439 precipitated a change in the behavior of 75 00:03:36,990 --> 00:03:34,439 an alien civilization because they no 76 00:03:38,309 --> 00:03:37,000 longer had an incentive to remain 77 00:03:40,190 --> 00:03:38,319 elusive in 78 00:03:41,869 --> 00:03:40,200 clandestine what is the risk that 79 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:41,879 disclosure might cause some governments 80 00:03:47,270 --> 00:03:44,640 to overreact precipitating fearful and 81 00:03:48,949 --> 00:03:47,280 aggressive interactions if these risks 82 00:03:50,910 --> 00:03:48,959 are substantial would it still make 83 00:03:53,030 --> 00:03:50,920 sense to release this 84 00:03:55,949 --> 00:03:53,040 information let's imagine you're just 85 00:03:57,509 --> 00:03:55,959 elected president of the United States 86 00:03:58,869 --> 00:03:57,519 and you know finally you get the big 87 00:04:00,670 --> 00:03:58,879 briefing and during one of your 88 00:04:02,949 --> 00:04:00,680 classified briefing you learn that we 89 00:04:05,390 --> 00:04:02,959 have indeed recovered extraterrestrial 90 00:04:07,869 --> 00:04:05,400 technology you learn we've made only 91 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:07,879 modest Headway in understanding it where 92 00:04:12,390 --> 00:04:09,920 it is from or why these intelligently 93 00:04:15,429 --> 00:04:12,400 controlled machines are here what would 94 00:04:17,710 --> 00:04:15,439 you do so Place yourself in the shoes of 95 00:04:19,990 --> 00:04:17,720 the commander-in chief and people in the 96 00:04:22,150 --> 00:04:20,000 government as president your top 97 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:22,160 priority is to keep the American people 98 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:24,520 safe from all threats foreign and 99 00:04:28,710 --> 00:04:26,960 domestic hundreds of millions of people 100 00:04:30,790 --> 00:04:28,720 including tens of millions of Children 101 00:04:32,790 --> 00:04:30,800 Place their faith in you are you going 102 00:04:35,270 --> 00:04:32,800 to hold a press conference revealing 103 00:04:36,710 --> 00:04:35,280 that aliens are visiting planet Earth 104 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:36,720 but we don't know where they're coming 105 00:04:42,150 --> 00:04:39,440 from why they are here or whether we can 106 00:04:44,189 --> 00:04:42,160 defend ourselves from them I've worked 107 00:04:45,870 --> 00:04:44,199 for politicians from both parties in the 108 00:04:47,189 --> 00:04:45,880 legislative and executive branches of 109 00:04:48,710 --> 00:04:47,199 government and I don't know many 110 00:04:49,870 --> 00:04:48,720 politicians that want to hold a press 111 00:04:53,150 --> 00:04:49,880 conference like 112 00:04:55,710 --> 00:04:53,160 that the sudden unexpected revelation of 113 00:04:57,430 --> 00:04:55,720 an ET presence would not only unsettle 114 00:04:59,909 --> 00:04:57,440 and probably terrify millions of 115 00:05:02,150 --> 00:04:59,919 billions of people so what per purpose 116 00:05:04,150 --> 00:05:02,160 would be served what chance as you as 117 00:05:06,990 --> 00:05:04,160 president what chance would you have of 118 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:07,000 moving forward on vital issues on your 119 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:08,960 agenda given the tumult that would 120 00:05:13,510 --> 00:05:11,440 result what reason is there to believe 121 00:05:16,230 --> 00:05:13,520 the net effect for society would be 122 00:05:17,870 --> 00:05:16,240 positive rather than negative these are 123 00:05:20,309 --> 00:05:17,880 questions that need to be addressed by 124 00:05:22,390 --> 00:05:20,319 those advocating the release of 125 00:05:24,830 --> 00:05:22,400 information proving an extraterrestrial 126 00:05:27,070 --> 00:05:24,840 presence on Earth this has the potential 127 00:05:29,870 --> 00:05:27,080 to be a Pandora's Box that we best think 128 00:05:32,029 --> 00:05:29,880 through carefully when I first became 129 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:32,039 involved in the UAP topic the alleged 130 00:05:36,430 --> 00:05:33,919 recovery of extraterrestrial technology 131 00:05:38,469 --> 00:05:36,440 was not an issue my immediate goal was 132 00:05:41,150 --> 00:05:38,479 to alert policymakers to a dangerous 133 00:05:43,070 --> 00:05:41,160 intelligence failure namely the fact of 134 00:05:45,510 --> 00:05:43,080 serious and recurring intrusions into 135 00:05:48,390 --> 00:05:45,520 restricted DOD airspace by strange 136 00:05:50,390 --> 00:05:48,400 unidentified aircraft it was shocking to 137 00:05:52,510 --> 00:05:50,400 learn our vaunted multi-billion dollar 138 00:05:55,230 --> 00:05:52,520 intelligence system was paralyzed by 139 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:55,240 stigma placing us personnel and the 140 00:05:59,990 --> 00:05:58,160 nation at risk this reminded me of both 141 00:06:01,670 --> 00:06:00,000 Pearl Harbor where vital warning 142 00:06:04,510 --> 00:06:01,680 information was not forwarded up the 143 00:06:06,309 --> 00:06:04,520 chain of command as well as 9911 when 144 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:06,319 intelligence agencies failed to share 145 00:06:10,189 --> 00:06:08,160 Vital Information that could have saved 146 00:06:12,469 --> 00:06:10,199 the lives of thousands of innocent 147 00:06:14,270 --> 00:06:12,479 civilians having survived the attack on 148 00:06:16,270 --> 00:06:14,280 the Pentagon myself this was not a 149 00:06:18,749 --> 00:06:16,280 purely theoretical 150 00:06:20,350 --> 00:06:18,759 consideration admittedly I was also 151 00:06:22,110 --> 00:06:20,360 hoping that enough Congressional 152 00:06:24,830 --> 00:06:22,120 pressure could compel DOD and the 153 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:24,840 intelligence Community to use their vast 154 00:06:30,270 --> 00:06:28,160 capabilities to study UAP knowing our 155 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:30,280 technical intelligence capabilities and 156 00:06:35,110 --> 00:06:32,479 systems well I was tantalized by the 157 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:35,120 prospect of what we might learn if these 158 00:06:40,189 --> 00:06:37,440 sometimes mindboggling capabilities were 159 00:06:42,469 --> 00:06:40,199 brought to bear on the unsolved UAP 160 00:06:44,350 --> 00:06:42,479 mystery it was therefore also an 161 00:06:47,430 --> 00:06:44,360 opportunity to see a childhood dream 162 00:06:49,189 --> 00:06:47,440 come true however aliens and recovered 163 00:06:52,189 --> 00:06:49,199 extraterrestrial materials were not 164 00:06:54,350 --> 00:06:52,199 initially on the agenda at the time the 165 00:06:56,790 --> 00:06:54,360 ET angle was present but remained 166 00:06:58,589 --> 00:06:56,800 unspoken for good reason if we' 167 00:07:00,189 --> 00:06:58,599 approached congress with an explicit 168 00:07:02,670 --> 00:07:00,199 focus on alien we would have been 169 00:07:05,070 --> 00:07:02,680 quickly shown to the exit many 170 00:07:06,749 --> 00:07:05,080 legislators were privately curious but 171 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:06,759 publicly they needed to focus on the 172 00:07:12,430 --> 00:07:08,960 National Security angle to engage on the 173 00:07:14,230 --> 00:07:12,440 UAP issue nevertheless As Time passed 174 00:07:16,150 --> 00:07:14,240 and new information became available 175 00:07:18,350 --> 00:07:16,160 Congressional interest expanded to 176 00:07:20,270 --> 00:07:18,360 include credible allegations of 177 00:07:22,550 --> 00:07:20,280 recovered extraterrestrial 178 00:07:24,309 --> 00:07:22,560 materials I confess I was partly 179 00:07:26,150 --> 00:07:24,319 responsible for this change of emphasis 180 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:26,160 because I brought Eric Davis to Capitol 181 00:07:31,029 --> 00:07:28,080 Hill to meet with the oversight 182 00:07:33,629 --> 00:07:31,039 committees um in October of 183 00:07:36,589 --> 00:07:33,639 2019 I believe that was the first 184 00:07:38,150 --> 00:07:36,599 congressional meeting on on that subject 185 00:07:39,990 --> 00:07:38,160 later I played a role in helping bring 186 00:07:42,629 --> 00:07:40,000 other Witnesses forward to include Dave 187 00:07:44,390 --> 00:07:42,639 grush so I began to wrestle with this 188 00:07:47,070 --> 00:07:44,400 issue am I doing the right thing it was 189 00:07:49,909 --> 00:07:47,080 a big ethical issue you're potentially 190 00:07:51,230 --> 00:07:49,919 starting an avalanche and uh that was 191 00:07:53,710 --> 00:07:51,240 much on my 192 00:07:56,029 --> 00:07:53,720 mind eventually members of Congress 193 00:07:58,230 --> 00:07:56,039 began to realize this was a s serious 194 00:08:00,869 --> 00:07:58,240 issue ultimately requiring Arrow to 195 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:00,879 investigate the e recovery 196 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:03,440 allegation however Congress did so 197 00:08:07,990 --> 00:08:05,280 without deciding whether to make its 198 00:08:10,149 --> 00:08:08,000 findings public it's true that some 199 00:08:12,629 --> 00:08:10,159 members of Congress for example Senator 200 00:08:15,430 --> 00:08:12,639 Kirsten g gbrand and representative Tim 201 00:08:17,350 --> 00:08:15,440 Brett have expressed strong support for 202 00:08:19,909 --> 00:08:17,360 releasing the facts whatever they Pro to 203 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:19,919 be but it is not clear how many of their 204 00:08:24,710 --> 00:08:22,800 colleagues agree it is also conceivable 205 00:08:26,510 --> 00:08:24,720 they might choose when confront uh 206 00:08:28,510 --> 00:08:26,520 change their minds when confronted with 207 00:08:30,390 --> 00:08:28,520 specific details they might reconsider 208 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:30,400 their point of view 209 00:08:35,509 --> 00:08:33,200 at this point it seems clear Arrow will 210 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:35,519 report no credible evidence the US 211 00:08:39,509 --> 00:08:37,440 government has recovered alien 212 00:08:42,430 --> 00:08:39,519 technology or knows of any 213 00:08:44,269 --> 00:08:42,440 extraterrestrial activity however I 214 00:08:46,509 --> 00:08:44,279 don't think this finding by Era will 215 00:08:49,230 --> 00:08:46,519 satisfy key members of Congress or the 216 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:49,240 public this is entirely understandable 217 00:08:53,550 --> 00:08:51,360 because asking era to investigate this 218 00:08:55,389 --> 00:08:53,560 issue is comparable to asking the 219 00:08:58,710 --> 00:08:55,399 intelligence Community to investigate 220 00:09:00,710 --> 00:08:58,720 the Iran Contra affair Arrow has a clear 221 00:09:02,949 --> 00:09:00,720 conflict of interest and has to protect 222 00:09:05,509 --> 00:09:02,959 such information is directed to do so as 223 00:09:08,389 --> 00:09:05,519 was pointed out earlier Arrow could also 224 00:09:10,350 --> 00:09:08,399 be denied access to this information the 225 00:09:12,829 --> 00:09:10,360 only way for Congress to assure itself 226 00:09:15,230 --> 00:09:12,839 of the truth is to continue pressing 227 00:09:17,230 --> 00:09:15,240 ahead with its own investigation as 228 00:09:18,750 --> 00:09:17,240 advocated by members of both parties in 229 00:09:21,269 --> 00:09:18,760 the House of 230 00:09:23,230 --> 00:09:21,279 Representatives in that regard uh 231 00:09:25,350 --> 00:09:23,240 regarding the government role I want to 232 00:09:27,430 --> 00:09:25,360 challenge the assertion that UAP issue 233 00:09:30,150 --> 00:09:27,440 is for scientists not politicians or 234 00:09:31,870 --> 00:09:30,160 government officials although UAP 235 00:09:33,910 --> 00:09:31,880 deserves serious attention from the 236 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:33,920 scientific community and I'm an Ardent 237 00:09:40,110 --> 00:09:36,800 supporter of the Galileo project and the 238 00:09:42,509 --> 00:09:40,120 SCU uh and and of course the Saul 239 00:09:46,030 --> 00:09:42,519 foundation and as NASA itself has 240 00:09:48,750 --> 00:09:46,040 recently acknowledged um this is a a 241 00:09:50,790 --> 00:09:48,760 valid and important scientific issue but 242 00:09:53,590 --> 00:09:50,800 National Security can't be ignored in 243 00:09:56,150 --> 00:09:53,600 this topic we are not dealing at least 244 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:56,160 not exclusively with an intangible 245 00:10:00,030 --> 00:09:58,240 interdimensional presence that has for 246 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:00,040 centuries been seeking to subtly 247 00:10:04,710 --> 00:10:02,959 influence human Affairs something along 248 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:04,720 these lines could be happening it's it's 249 00:10:09,990 --> 00:10:07,760 a fascinating issue but our military is 250 00:10:12,069 --> 00:10:10,000 encountering intelligently controlled 251 00:10:13,190 --> 00:10:12,079 solid objects invading restricted 252 00:10:16,389 --> 00:10:13,200 military 253 00:10:17,829 --> 00:10:16,399 airspace sometimes flying in formation 254 00:10:20,150 --> 00:10:17,839 in many cases they're emitting 255 00:10:23,150 --> 00:10:20,160 radiations in radiation in the 1 to 3 256 00:10:25,150 --> 00:10:23,160 and 8 to 12 gigahertz range multiple 257 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:25,160 credible reports indicate these objects 258 00:10:29,670 --> 00:10:26,760 have rendered segments of our nuclear 259 00:10:31,790 --> 00:10:29,680 deterrent inoperable in other recent 260 00:10:34,350 --> 00:10:31,800 cases they're jamming Radars on fighter 261 00:10:36,350 --> 00:10:34,360 aircraft we also have multiple cases of 262 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:36,360 near midair collisions and other cases 263 00:10:40,990 --> 00:10:38,320 involving serious injuries to Military 264 00:10:42,790 --> 00:10:41,000 and civilian Personnel indeed this is an 265 00:10:43,790 --> 00:10:42,800 area of research for Dr Nolan and the 266 00:10:46,190 --> 00:10:43,800 Soul 267 00:10:47,870 --> 00:10:46,200 Foundation I'm here to support Gary's 268 00:10:50,949 --> 00:10:47,880 and Peter's efforts to advance the 269 00:10:53,150 --> 00:10:50,959 scientific study of UAP but I also 270 00:10:55,670 --> 00:10:53,160 recognize that as much as it might like 271 00:10:58,470 --> 00:10:55,680 to we can't let the government devest 272 00:10:59,949 --> 00:10:58,480 itself of this issue similarly the 273 00:11:01,670 --> 00:10:59,959 government does does not have the luxury 274 00:11:04,230 --> 00:11:01,680 of limiting itself to pristine 275 00:11:06,150 --> 00:11:04,240 scientific information this is one of 276 00:11:08,350 --> 00:11:06,160 the areas in which I differ from Dr 277 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:08,360 kpatrick Who claims there is quote no 278 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:10,880 credible unquote evidence of UAP 279 00:11:15,829 --> 00:11:13,519 demonstrating capabilities or doing 280 00:11:18,629 --> 00:11:15,839 things that violate our understanding of 281 00:11:20,670 --> 00:11:18,639 science to my mind the Nimitz aviators 282 00:11:23,550 --> 00:11:20,680 and radar operators and technicians are 283 00:11:28,110 --> 00:11:25,670 credible the intelligence Community 284 00:11:30,550 --> 00:11:28,120 certainly prefers rigorous scientific 285 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:30,560 information whenever possible but it 286 00:11:34,350 --> 00:11:32,800 would be untenable if not suicidal for 287 00:11:37,030 --> 00:11:34,360 the intelligence or law enforcement 288 00:11:39,750 --> 00:11:37,040 communities to limit himself to robust 289 00:11:41,829 --> 00:11:39,760 and repeatable sensor data we rarely 290 00:11:44,110 --> 00:11:41,839 have the luxury of sensor information on 291 00:11:46,550 --> 00:11:44,120 the intentions of foreign leaders or the 292 00:11:48,590 --> 00:11:46,560 precise capabilities of adversary forces 293 00:11:50,990 --> 00:11:48,600 so we do the best we can with what we 294 00:11:53,110 --> 00:11:51,000 have we should consider the accounts of 295 00:11:54,750 --> 00:11:53,120 the Nimitz aviators and radar operators 296 00:11:57,150 --> 00:11:54,760 as highly credible evidence of 297 00:11:59,470 --> 00:11:57,160 intelligently controlled graft doing 298 00:12:02,310 --> 00:11:59,480 things we cannot emulate and don't 299 00:12:04,829 --> 00:12:02,320 understand for example as I noted in 300 00:12:07,550 --> 00:12:04,839 earlier presentation the Tic Tac went 301 00:12:09,550 --> 00:12:07,560 supersonic without a sonic boom it 302 00:12:12,030 --> 00:12:09,560 overcame G forces that would destroy 303 00:12:13,629 --> 00:12:12,040 anything built by man there was no 304 00:12:16,110 --> 00:12:13,639 evidence of the plasma that we would 305 00:12:18,550 --> 00:12:16,120 normally expect to see it such extreme 306 00:12:20,509 --> 00:12:18,560 velocities I realize the limitations of 307 00:12:22,949 --> 00:12:20,519 human reporting but I see no reason to 308 00:12:24,550 --> 00:12:22,959 suddenly change the rules and standards 309 00:12:26,910 --> 00:12:24,560 we normally use in the intelligence 310 00:12:29,790 --> 00:12:26,920 committee when evaluating 311 00:12:31,829 --> 00:12:29,800 UAP I'm raising these ISS to remind that 312 00:12:34,350 --> 00:12:31,839 the Paramount question about UAP for 313 00:12:36,310 --> 00:12:34,360 government policy makers and many 314 00:12:39,949 --> 00:12:36,320 members of the public will undoubtedly 315 00:12:41,310 --> 00:12:39,959 be whether UAP POS an existential threat 316 00:12:43,870 --> 00:12:41,320 I'm thrilled to be supporting 317 00:12:47,629 --> 00:12:43,880 investigations of UAP signatures 318 00:12:51,389 --> 00:12:47,639 propulsion materials uh meta materials 319 00:12:53,949 --> 00:12:51,399 uh and so forth but we can't Dodge this 320 00:12:55,629 --> 00:12:53,959 issue in making the case for disclosure 321 00:12:57,949 --> 00:12:55,639 we have to address it 322 00:13:00,269 --> 00:12:57,959 headon admittedly nothing is 323 00:13:02,829 --> 00:13:00,279 ontologically shocking as disclosure has 324 00:13:04,750 --> 00:13:02,839 ever occurred certainly not in modern 325 00:13:06,189 --> 00:13:04,760 times but there's some interesting 326 00:13:08,670 --> 00:13:06,199 precedents we can 327 00:13:10,590 --> 00:13:08,680 examine consider the spudnik issue that 328 00:13:13,230 --> 00:13:10,600 arose in 329 00:13:15,230 --> 00:13:13,240 1957 spudnik was merely a small 330 00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:15,240 satellite emitting tracking signals it 331 00:13:19,829 --> 00:13:17,920 wasn't even a weapon system yet the mere 332 00:13:22,150 --> 00:13:19,839 fact America was lagging behind the 333 00:13:25,110 --> 00:13:22,160 Soviet Union and spacial space and 334 00:13:27,990 --> 00:13:25,120 missile technology immediately became a 335 00:13:30,150 --> 00:13:28,000 major political issue reminiscent of the 336 00:13:32,710 --> 00:13:30,160 fur over the recent Chinese balloon 337 00:13:34,550 --> 00:13:32,720 incident it was not long before Congress 338 00:13:37,629 --> 00:13:34,560 and the administration responded and the 339 00:13:39,990 --> 00:13:37,639 Space Race got underway thankfully what 340 00:13:42,069 --> 00:13:40,000 began as a military competition with the 341 00:13:44,430 --> 00:13:42,079 Soviet Union eventually turned into 342 00:13:46,590 --> 00:13:44,440 collaborative space exploration 343 00:13:49,030 --> 00:13:46,600 involving the Russians and many other 344 00:13:51,389 --> 00:13:49,040 nations so in that case the initial 345 00:13:54,550 --> 00:13:51,399 frightened concern which was a national 346 00:13:56,110 --> 00:13:54,560 security issue ultimately led to Major 347 00:13:58,269 --> 00:13:56,120 scientific and technological 348 00:13:59,829 --> 00:13:58,279 breakthroughs and laudable international 349 00:14:02,230 --> 00:13:59,839 competition 350 00:14:05,030 --> 00:14:02,240 I would like to believe the UAP issue 351 00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:05,040 and disclosure could follow that path 352 00:14:09,550 --> 00:14:07,600 admittedly other examples are tragic 353 00:14:11,269 --> 00:14:09,560 when we look at first Contact by more 354 00:14:13,990 --> 00:14:11,279 technologically advanced civilizations 355 00:14:16,069 --> 00:14:14,000 with indigenous peoples the consequences 356 00:14:18,670 --> 00:14:16,079 often prove catastrophic for the less 357 00:14:20,670 --> 00:14:18,680 technologically advanced in part this 358 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:20,680 was due to the spread of lethal diseases 359 00:14:25,189 --> 00:14:22,639 for which indigenous peoples had no 360 00:14:27,790 --> 00:14:25,199 immunity but it was much more than that 361 00:14:29,230 --> 00:14:27,800 contact often proved psychologically and 362 00:14:31,230 --> 00:14:29,240 eventually culturally 363 00:14:33,230 --> 00:14:31,240 devastating as the leadership and 364 00:14:34,990 --> 00:14:33,240 cherished religious and cultural beliefs 365 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:35,000 of many indigenous groups were 366 00:14:39,870 --> 00:14:37,320 eradicated without being replaced by a 367 00:14:41,790 --> 00:14:39,880 viable substitute we all need 368 00:14:44,269 --> 00:14:41,800 psychological and cultural maps to 369 00:14:46,269 --> 00:14:44,279 navigate reality and for many of these 370 00:14:48,910 --> 00:14:46,279 people those Maps were destroyed without 371 00:14:51,230 --> 00:14:48,920 a ready replacement leaving behind a 372 00:14:53,470 --> 00:14:51,240 devastating psychological and spiritual 373 00:14:55,110 --> 00:14:53,480 void that many people are still 374 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:55,120 contending with as they seek to 375 00:14:59,670 --> 00:14:57,600 reconcile modern secular views with 376 00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:59,680 their traditional beliefs 377 00:15:03,870 --> 00:15:01,199 but note the difference between these 378 00:15:06,470 --> 00:15:03,880 two cases in the case of Sputnik we have 379 00:15:08,910 --> 00:15:06,480 an awareness of a Potential Threat in 380 00:15:11,829 --> 00:15:08,920 the second instance we have actual inv 381 00:15:13,629 --> 00:15:11,839 Invasion and occupation so a key 382 00:15:16,230 --> 00:15:13,639 question to ask ourselves again a 383 00:15:17,790 --> 00:15:16,240 security issue is whether disclosure 384 00:15:20,310 --> 00:15:17,800 might provoke 385 00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:20,320 hostilities this seems to me highly 386 00:15:25,350 --> 00:15:23,040 unlikely so although the sput case is 387 00:15:27,829 --> 00:15:25,360 far less shocking and provocative than 388 00:15:30,870 --> 00:15:27,839 disclosure would be it may actually be a 389 00:15:33,550 --> 00:15:30,880 more appropriate model than tragic in 390 00:15:35,269 --> 00:15:33,560 incidents involving European contact 391 00:15:37,430 --> 00:15:35,279 with other 392 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,440 societies I believe that the initial 393 00:15:41,470 --> 00:15:39,519 shock of disclosure and an upsurge of 394 00:15:43,550 --> 00:15:41,480 Demands for new investment in technology 395 00:15:44,990 --> 00:15:43,560 and research and a rash of international 396 00:15:48,670 --> 00:15:45,000 meetings and 397 00:15:51,069 --> 00:15:48,680 initiatives um after that the the the 398 00:15:53,309 --> 00:15:51,079 crisis atmosphere would soon subside as 399 00:15:56,670 --> 00:15:53,319 people realized little had 400 00:15:59,189 --> 00:15:56,680 changed in terms of UAP behavior and 401 00:16:01,389 --> 00:15:59,199 activity processing this unsettling 402 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:01,399 information would certainly take time 403 00:16:05,110 --> 00:16:03,279 but danger and fear of the known have 404 00:16:07,670 --> 00:16:05,120 always been inherent in The Human 405 00:16:09,870 --> 00:16:07,680 Condition how many of us here today for 406 00:16:12,110 --> 00:16:09,880 example are worrying about the fact that 407 00:16:14,030 --> 00:16:12,120 we're a location that is targeted by 408 00:16:16,509 --> 00:16:14,040 thermonuclear weapons from Russia and 409 00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:16,519 China we live with this every day if you 410 00:16:21,949 --> 00:16:19,440 live in a major American city if some 411 00:16:23,670 --> 00:16:21,959 UAP proved to be extraterrestrial people 412 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:23,680 would still as they always have in the 413 00:16:28,110 --> 00:16:26,240 presence of uncertainty get out of bed 414 00:16:31,269 --> 00:16:28,120 the next day slip into their clothes eat 415 00:16:33,790 --> 00:16:31,279 breakfast and head to work after mulling 416 00:16:35,790 --> 00:16:33,800 this issue I've concluded the 417 00:16:38,110 --> 00:16:35,800 existential shock would actually be 418 00:16:39,269 --> 00:16:38,120 highly beneficial a much more 419 00:16:42,110 --> 00:16:39,279 far-reaching 420 00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:42,120 provocation than sput Sputnik 421 00:16:47,470 --> 00:16:44,240 stimulating immense creativity 422 00:16:49,069 --> 00:16:47,480 investment and research moreover and 423 00:16:51,590 --> 00:16:49,079 most importantly it could have a 424 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:51,600 profound positive and desperately needed 425 00:16:57,309 --> 00:16:54,959 impact on Mankind and international 426 00:17:00,269 --> 00:16:57,319 relations earlier this year I pinned an 427 00:17:02,509 --> 00:17:00,279 article for political titled if the US 428 00:17:05,110 --> 00:17:02,519 government has UFO crash materials it is 429 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:05,120 time to reveal them in the article I 430 00:17:10,029 --> 00:17:07,360 made a number of points including the 431 00:17:12,510 --> 00:17:10,039 following democracy requires 432 00:17:14,870 --> 00:17:12,520 transparency the American people own any 433 00:17:17,470 --> 00:17:14,880 materials recovered by the government 434 00:17:19,350 --> 00:17:17,480 the public can handle disclosure the 435 00:17:21,669 --> 00:17:19,360 government cannot forever stifle the 436 00:17:24,510 --> 00:17:21,679 truth so better to get ahead of it 437 00:17:26,870 --> 00:17:24,520 secrecy stifles science there's no 438 00:17:29,070 --> 00:17:26,880 evidence of an imminent threat if there 439 00:17:31,710 --> 00:17:29,080 is a threat we need to know so we and 440 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:31,720 prepare finally I argue that disclosure 441 00:17:36,150 --> 00:17:34,320 could transform International tensions 442 00:17:37,430 --> 00:17:36,160 catalyzing desperately needed 443 00:17:39,750 --> 00:17:37,440 International 444 00:17:42,350 --> 00:17:39,760 collaboration I'd like to expand on this 445 00:17:45,669 --> 00:17:42,360 last Point as is most the most important 446 00:17:47,669 --> 00:17:45,679 perhaps and the least obvious in my view 447 00:17:49,789 --> 00:17:47,679 both domestically and internationally We 448 00:17:52,990 --> 00:17:49,799 are following an extremely dangerous 449 00:17:55,029 --> 00:17:53,000 trajectory that requires intervention 450 00:17:56,870 --> 00:17:55,039 disclosure would undoubtedly alter the 451 00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:56,880 trajectory of our species almost 452 00:18:01,390 --> 00:17:59,440 certainly for the better in my view 453 00:18:03,029 --> 00:18:01,400 it is obvious that our nation our 454 00:18:05,789 --> 00:18:03,039 species and the environment are in 455 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:05,799 serious and growing Jeopardy if this 456 00:18:09,669 --> 00:18:07,520 were just my view of course it would be 457 00:18:12,630 --> 00:18:09,679 easy to dismiss but unfortunately that 458 00:18:14,510 --> 00:18:12,640 is not the case I don't have the time 459 00:18:16,669 --> 00:18:14,520 here to list all my concerns all the 460 00:18:19,350 --> 00:18:16,679 ways our society is financing its own 461 00:18:21,430 --> 00:18:19,360 downall downfall through perverse 462 00:18:23,990 --> 00:18:21,440 incentives that have developed over many 463 00:18:26,590 --> 00:18:24,000 decades nor is there space to do justice 464 00:18:28,029 --> 00:18:26,600 to the growing dangers we Face abroad 465 00:18:30,029 --> 00:18:28,039 rather an attempt to make the case 466 00:18:31,870 --> 00:18:30,039 myself self a offer the perspective of 467 00:18:34,710 --> 00:18:31,880 two analysts of world 468 00:18:36,549 --> 00:18:34,720 affairs Ray doio is the ingenious 469 00:18:39,510 --> 00:18:36,559 billionaire who established the world's 470 00:18:41,510 --> 00:18:39,520 largest head fund Yuval herui is a 471 00:18:44,270 --> 00:18:41,520 dazzling Cambridge trained Israeli 472 00:18:46,029 --> 00:18:44,280 historian and author their perspectives 473 00:18:48,110 --> 00:18:46,039 are as different as their occupations 474 00:18:49,029 --> 00:18:48,120 but their analyses are complimentary and 475 00:18:52,070 --> 00:18:49,039 equally 476 00:18:54,430 --> 00:18:52,080 sobering Mr Doo's views are available to 477 00:18:56,070 --> 00:18:54,440 us through his fascinating and dense 478 00:18:58,870 --> 00:18:56,080 book principles for dealing with a 479 00:19:01,110 --> 00:18:58,880 changing World Order his argument 480 00:19:03,549 --> 00:19:01,120 supported by Myriad graphs and piles of 481 00:19:06,310 --> 00:19:03,559 data is that the evolution of human 482 00:19:08,270 --> 00:19:06,320 societies runs in discernable Cycles 483 00:19:10,630 --> 00:19:08,280 he's undoubtedly profited from 484 00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:10,640 understanding these Cycles in short when 485 00:19:14,990 --> 00:19:12,480 a nation or civilization becomes 486 00:19:17,149 --> 00:19:15,000 debt-ridden and overextended Wealthy but 487 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:17,159 complacent with massive disparities in 488 00:19:23,190 --> 00:19:20,080 wealth dangerous internal fractions 489 00:19:25,190 --> 00:19:23,200 fractures and civil Strife emerge as you 490 00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,200 likely know the us today is more deeply 491 00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:27,039 indebted than at any time since World 492 00:19:31,830 --> 00:19:29,919 War II and the debt is rapidly growing 493 00:19:34,630 --> 00:19:31,840 even as interest rates are rising making 494 00:19:36,669 --> 00:19:34,640 the repayment far more difficult when 495 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:36,679 interest on the de debt crowds out 496 00:19:39,390 --> 00:19:38,320 productive Investments the economy 497 00:19:42,510 --> 00:19:39,400 eventually 498 00:19:44,750 --> 00:19:42,520 declines leading to polarization and 499 00:19:47,149 --> 00:19:44,760 instability when this occurs according 500 00:19:49,350 --> 00:19:47,159 to Ray simultaneously with challenges 501 00:19:52,270 --> 00:19:49,360 from a rising foreign power as is the 502 00:19:54,510 --> 00:19:52,280 case with China today history shows that 503 00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:54,520 war and disaster for the declining power 504 00:19:59,190 --> 00:19:57,440 usually follows military confrontation 505 00:20:00,830 --> 00:19:59,200 between the US and China is a real and 506 00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:00,840 growing risk especially in the South 507 00:20:05,230 --> 00:20:03,440 China Sea and Taiwan where encounters 508 00:20:06,909 --> 00:20:05,240 between us and Allied Nations and 509 00:20:08,590 --> 00:20:06,919 Chinese forces are occurring with 510 00:20:10,909 --> 00:20:08,600 disturbing and growing 511 00:20:12,510 --> 00:20:10,919 frequency meanwhile president G is 512 00:20:15,350 --> 00:20:12,520 moving China in the direction of North 513 00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:15,360 Korea a state with an ambitious and 514 00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:18,559 intolerant dictator with near Godlike 515 00:20:23,029 --> 00:20:20,799 status imposing his views at every level 516 00:20:25,669 --> 00:20:23,039 of society from the classroom to the 517 00:20:27,909 --> 00:20:25,679 boardroom a fanatically nationalistic 518 00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:27,919 1.5 billion person version of North 519 00:20:30,870 --> 00:20:28,880 Korea 520 00:20:33,350 --> 00:20:30,880 replete with AI security systems 521 00:20:35,590 --> 00:20:33,360 controlling orwellian sfe surveillance 522 00:20:38,029 --> 00:20:35,600 capabilities is a truly daunting 523 00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:38,039 Prospect for these reasons I share his 524 00:20:43,070 --> 00:20:40,640 concern Mr Doo's concerns about the 525 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:43,080 prospect of tectonic and possibly 526 00:20:47,430 --> 00:20:44,760 catastrophic change occurring in the 527 00:20:49,149 --> 00:20:47,440 years ahead regarding the internal 528 00:20:51,230 --> 00:20:49,159 situation he says the most reliable 529 00:20:54,350 --> 00:20:51,240 signs of an escalation to Civil War are 530 00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:54,360 one the rules being disregarded two both 531 00:20:58,750 --> 00:20:56,080 sides emotionally attacking each other 532 00:21:00,390 --> 00:20:58,760 and three blood being spilled it's hard 533 00:21:01,950 --> 00:21:00,400 not to see these re the relevance of 534 00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:01,960 these factors given the riots and 535 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:04,760 demonstrations of of recent years the 536 00:21:08,990 --> 00:21:06,559 attack on the nation's capital and the 537 00:21:12,190 --> 00:21:09,000 incredible part partisan hatred gripping 538 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:12,200 the nation making it impossible to pass 539 00:21:16,269 --> 00:21:14,960 badly needed legislation the government 540 00:21:19,070 --> 00:21:16,279 right now is 541 00:21:21,710 --> 00:21:19,080 broken to my knowledge the US has never 542 00:21:23,630 --> 00:21:21,720 before failed to pass a defense bill at 543 00:21:25,630 --> 00:21:23,640 a time when the US military is under 544 00:21:28,110 --> 00:21:25,640 Fire and stretched to its limit 545 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:28,120 supporting friends and allies the 546 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,000 growing crisis of government legitimacy 547 00:21:34,149 --> 00:21:32,400 is toxic and only getting worse 548 00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:34,159 meanwhile there are no efforts in sight 549 00:21:38,269 --> 00:21:36,320 to correct the massive fiscal imbalances 550 00:21:41,990 --> 00:21:38,279 that are undermining our children's 551 00:21:44,909 --> 00:21:42,000 future Mr Dalo also warns that when 552 00:21:46,710 --> 00:21:44,919 change comes it is generally Swift 553 00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:46,720 devastating and 554 00:21:51,549 --> 00:21:48,720 unanticipated this conservative 555 00:21:54,149 --> 00:21:51,559 businessman sees a shocking 30% risk of 556 00:21:55,710 --> 00:21:54,159 Civil War in America with the next RIS 557 00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:55,720 Point occurring around the time of the 558 00:22:00,830 --> 00:21:58,640 upcoming presidential election 559 00:22:03,070 --> 00:22:00,840 Dr Harari offers a very different 560 00:22:05,149 --> 00:22:03,080 perspective one that is focused on wider 561 00:22:08,710 --> 00:22:05,159 existential challenges facing our planet 562 00:22:11,669 --> 00:22:08,720 and our species he States quote each of 563 00:22:14,750 --> 00:22:11,679 these problems nuclear war ecological 564 00:22:17,110 --> 00:22:14,760 collapse and technological disruption is 565 00:22:19,950 --> 00:22:17,120 enough to threaten the future of human 566 00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:19,960 civilization but taken together they add 567 00:22:24,510 --> 00:22:22,400 up to an unprecedented existential 568 00:22:26,950 --> 00:22:24,520 crisis especially because they are 569 00:22:30,470 --> 00:22:26,960 likely to reinforce and compound one 570 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:30,480 another he later says if despite these 571 00:22:34,149 --> 00:22:32,320 common threats humans choose the 572 00:22:36,950 --> 00:22:34,159 privilege their particular National 573 00:22:40,669 --> 00:22:36,960 loyalties above everything else the 574 00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:40,679 results may be far worse than 1914 or 575 00:22:46,510 --> 00:22:43,360 1939 there is a potential solution 576 00:22:48,710 --> 00:22:46,520 however as Dr Harari observes a common 577 00:22:51,669 --> 00:22:48,720 enemy is the best Catalyst for forging a 578 00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:51,679 common identity if a common threat is 579 00:22:56,310 --> 00:22:53,840 the best recipe for a change in our 580 00:22:57,950 --> 00:22:56,320 point of view for uh international 581 00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:57,960 relations what could be helpful more 582 00:23:01,789 --> 00:23:00,240 more consistent with our long-term 583 00:23:04,190 --> 00:23:01,799 Prosperity than learning that one or 584 00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:04,200 more advanced civilizations are visiting 585 00:23:10,149 --> 00:23:07,559 our planet it would be a stunning shock 586 00:23:12,190 --> 00:23:10,159 to be sure many would initially be 587 00:23:14,549 --> 00:23:12,200 frightened or perhaps terrified whether 588 00:23:17,310 --> 00:23:14,559 or not for good reason but that would 589 00:23:20,190 --> 00:23:17,320 quickly subside more to the point we 590 00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:20,200 need a shock to reframe International 591 00:23:24,870 --> 00:23:22,080 perspectives in order to effectively 592 00:23:27,950 --> 00:23:24,880 manage AI global warming weapons of mass 593 00:23:29,750 --> 00:23:27,960 destruction and more much as NASA 594 00:23:32,269 --> 00:23:29,760 recently demonstrated the ability to 595 00:23:34,029 --> 00:23:32,279 alter the trajectory of an asteroid in 596 00:23:36,669 --> 00:23:34,039 the event we detect one on a collision 597 00:23:39,549 --> 00:23:36,679 course with Earth I believe we need a 598 00:23:41,710 --> 00:23:39,559 sufficiently powerful conceptual jolt to 599 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:41,720 alter the present evolutionary TR 600 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,120 trajectory of our 601 00:23:47,149 --> 00:23:45,440 species that is why in addition to 602 00:23:49,149 --> 00:23:47,159 democratic principles I believe our 603 00:23:51,149 --> 00:23:49,159 nation and our species could ultimately 604 00:23:53,870 --> 00:23:51,159 hugely benefit from an awareness we are 605 00:23:55,630 --> 00:23:53,880 not alone and if there is a threat 606 00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:55,640 aren't we better off knowing so we can 607 00:23:59,549 --> 00:23:57,960 take appropriate action when has 608 00:24:00,789 --> 00:23:59,559 ignorance ever been a good National 609 00:24:03,029 --> 00:24:00,799 Security 610 00:24:05,310 --> 00:24:03,039 strategy in conclusion I'd like to bring 611 00:24:08,750 --> 00:24:05,320 in a third figure quite different from 612 00:24:10,350 --> 00:24:08,760 either Mr Doo or Mr Hariri a former US 613 00:24:12,070 --> 00:24:10,360 president who had an extraordinary 614 00:24:14,590 --> 00:24:12,080 personal UAP 615 00:24:16,510 --> 00:24:14,600 sighting whether President Ronald Reagan 616 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,520 was preent or speaking from an awareness 617 00:24:21,549 --> 00:24:18,640 of secret government information remains 618 00:24:25,630 --> 00:24:21,559 to be seen but his statement to the UN 619 00:24:27,470 --> 00:24:25,640 General Assembly in 1987 is most apt in 620 00:24:28,630 --> 00:24:27,480 our obsessions with the antagonisms of 621 00:24:30,990 --> 00:24:28,640 the moment 622 00:24:32,230 --> 00:24:31,000 we often forget how much unites all 623 00:24:34,950 --> 00:24:32,240 members of 624 00:24:37,549 --> 00:24:34,960 humanity perhaps we need some outside 625 00:24:40,590 --> 00:24:37,559 Universal threat to make us recognize 626 00:24:42,510 --> 00:24:40,600 this common Bond I occasionally think 627 00:24:45,070 --> 00:24:42,520 how quickly our differences worldwide 628 00:24:48,269 --> 00:24:45,080 would vanish if we were facing an alien 629 00:24:50,830 --> 00:24:48,279 threat from outside this world and yet I 630 00:24:53,630 --> 00:24:50,840 ask you is not an alien force already 631 00:24:56,269 --> 00:24:53,640 Among Us what could be more alien to the 632 00:24:58,470 --> 00:24:56,279 universal aspirations of our peoples 633 00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:58,480 than the than the than War and the 634 00:25:03,590 --> 00:25:01,679 threat of War for all the reasons above 635 00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:03,600 I hope our elected officials will seek 636 00:25:08,710 --> 00:25:05,760 and reveal the truth about what the 637 00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:08,720 government knows about UAP we need the 638 00:25:13,909 --> 00:25:11,200 truth however unsettling and the sooner 639 00:25:18,190 --> 00:25:13,919 the better of course it needs to be done 640 00:25:21,389 --> 00:25:18,200 in a very thoughtful and uh uh staged 641 00:25:24,070 --> 00:25:21,399 way as Carl was discussing um this 642 00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:24,080 should be done in a multilateral fashion 643 00:25:29,510 --> 00:25:26,480 to the extent possible it requires a lot 644 00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:29,520 of Education public education a lot of 645 00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,320 further discussion and in that regard I 646 00:25:36,310 --> 00:25:33,840 think we're already seeing the benefits 647 00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,320 of the Saul foundation and what Gary and 648 00:25:40,269 --> 00:25:38,080 Peter are doing because it's bringing 649 00:25:42,590 --> 00:25:40,279 forward today in the presentations we've 650 00:25:44,269 --> 00:25:42,600 seen raising these kind of issues 651 00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:44,279 elevating them getting them into 652 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:46,679 discussion they are really truly 653 00:25:50,530 --> 00:25:49,279 profound issues so thank you for for 654 00:25:56,669 --> 00:25:50,540 what you're